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    Hololens



    AR done right. And it launches this fall. Must... resist... urge...
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    super excited to watch this before I go to bed tonight.

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    I have my reservations about this stuff, but it's still pretty cool and I'm glad the technology is being worked on, as that is the only way it will ever improve to a point where I might change my mind.

    I definitely think it looks like a fun toy, but it's going to be a toy for people with more money than me. People who will probably get bored of it within a year, but again, that will still contribute to taking the technology forward.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dawlin View Post
    AR done right. And it launches this fall. Must... resist... urge...
    Do you want to be talked out of it? I'll put the below in a spoiler code, just in case you don't want a buzzkill.

    Spoiler for doubts:

    Allow me to point out that the technology is young and that Microsoft is no stranger to presenting exaggerated tech demos that make a product look better than it actually ends up being.

    Microsoft are certainly not the only company that does this, but I've seen them do it enough times to come to expect it. By all means look forward to the technology, but be wary of unrealistic expectations.

    I would personally let them iterate through a few different consumer versions before making a purchase.



    To be fair, I've never really liked AR stuff in the first place. I think the tech is fascinating, but every case of it I have ever seen has failed to captivate me.

    I mean, this is basically an evolution of stuff that already exists on handheld gaming systems and phones. AR cards and all that. I've always found that stuff to be exceptionally boring every time I've tried it. And there is still that disconnect between seeing something that isn't real superimposed on something that is.

    Still cool though. I certainly wouldn't mind a phone/computer wearable that doesn't need a screen. So feel free to lab rat that stuff for me.
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    Re: Hololens

    Supposedly the viewing area for the holograms is actually fairly limited, as the glasses aren't powerful enough for the higher resolutions your normal field of vision would require.

    On the bright side, from the sounds of it, the effect is more immersive than I would have assumed.


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    I think AR is awesome and that its the future of life possibly to the point that our phones may one day just become a processing unit that is never removed from the pocket and that we are always hands free.

    That said I bet the MS unit will be moderately successful especially if sold in the $500 price range... Then Apple will steal the idea, call it a huge innovation, paint it white call it iVision and charge $1000 and sell it like hotcakes to the sucker masses.
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    Thanks for the links, Wool. I've been following the backlash - TWiT has a segment dedicated to it this week as well.
    I'm well aware that this is the first iteration, and the cheapskate in me will probably win - I'll wait a few iterations down the line. The only thing that I've been a firstmover on was the Leap Motion, and that's purely because the price tag was so low.

    But this IS the future - ever since I read this book (recommended years ago by someone on this board, I forget who ), I've been waiting for real AR.
    I think AR is awesome and that its the future of life possibly to the point that our phones may one day just become a processing unit that is never removed from the pocket and that we are always hands free.
    Exactly. The book goes into that - but goes a lot further than Hololens - most of it talks about REAL holograms projected into the world, and the problems with creating a true non-transparent background via light (hint: You need lasers for this).

    One thing that Microsoft didn't go into was the whole "projected user interface on utilities"-field (also from the book): Since most modern washer/dryer/dishwashers operate with software anyhow, you could project a user interface onto a flat surface on the front of the machine. If needs be, you put an RFID chip (or two, for alignment) on there to act as an anchor.

    Widespread AR glasses also puts new demands on security - "screamer" links or "black out your vision completely while driving a car"-malware. Fun stuff!
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    And naturally since the consumer versions of AR will likely have cameras on them I can already see the less technologically savvy industries like entertainment demand the device knows when its in a movie theater or when the person is looking at their TV and force it to shut down so they cannot possibly record anything!
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    Developer kits available in Q1 2016, cost: 3.000 USD.
    There goes my plan to acquire one - too expensive for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by FilanFyretracker View Post
    And naturally since the consumer versions of AR will likely have cameras on them I can already see the less technologically savvy industries like entertainment demand the device knows when its in a movie theater or when the person is looking at their TV and force it to shut down so they cannot possibly record anything!
    I will be glad when the res increases a lot so I can use them for product development. I think its utility in 3D modeling will be tremendous. It will open up new UI designs as well being able to view depth like we can physical objects. An example for programming is viewing models side by side code in real-time instead of having to manipulate the object with a 3D mouse or regular mouse (not as efficient, so a 3D mouse is a worthwhile investment) to see its output. I would prefer something similar to Google Glass that does not get so hot as to be physically uncomfortable. I would like to be able to record everything I see for analysis in real-time rather than having to dump the data afterwards for analysis. Another advantage is not having your vision blocked like what happens with current devices. Being in an uncontrolled environment I am pretty uncomfortable with doing that in general. But, I bug everything I have control over for safety and analysis purposes. It's pretty fun and helps me identify workflow improvements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FilanFyretracker View Post
    I think AR is awesome and that its the future of life possibly to the point that our phones may one day just become a processing unit that is never removed from the pocket and that we are always hands free.

    That said I bet the MS unit will be moderately successful especially if sold in the $500 price range... Then Apple will steal the idea, call it a huge innovation, paint it white call it iVision and charge $1000 and sell it like hotcakes to the sucker masses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schezar View Post
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    I don't think Apple will ever make one that is good nor will MS. These are devices that greatly benefit from being hackable and having open software for them (much like routers) which is completely against every corporations MO. There is a ton of room with these devices for applying them to different domains but being locked down kills that. I expect a lot of theses to be published using these. Users are making a lot of cool apps for them already when they aren't being hamstrung by corporation paranoia and butthurdedness over adult content.

    Well done VR porn is fucking amazing even in early days. File sizes are fucking insane though.
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