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    So apparently unbeknownst to me there's been some massive countrywide push to eliminate the Presidential Physical Fitness test that we all took as kids.

    Now mind you, doing those situps as fast as I could sucked and I was in pretty decent shape as a kid, but seriously WTF???? Good Lord Almighty the quotes in this article make me despair for the future of our country. Check out these tasty bits:
    School officials say the 44-year-old test, once the gold standard for measuring fitness, embarrasses and discourages out-of-shape children...
    No, being fat and out of shape embarrasses and discourages out-of-shape children.
    “It strikes a different chord about bringing up the average child instead of having kids compete against other kids to be the top,” said Iowa State University assistant professor Gregory Welk, FitnessGram's scientific director.
    If you are attempting to bring up an average child, you fail. Period. I do not care how average your child is, if you are attempting to bring your child up as average you suck as a parent. Goals should be placed where they are difficult to reach.
    “Conceptually, it's very good,” Riley said. “However, if you've got a heavyset kid who can't do a pull-up, it doesn't do anything to motivate them to get better.”
    ... so the alternative is to implement a program that tells that kid if they can't do one pull-up they're good and terrific and needn't change a thing. After all, being so out of shape and fat that you can't do one goddamn pull-up is an indicator of success.
    When the girls in her sixth-grade class ran a FitnessGram aerobic test, nearly all of them reached their healthy fitness zones. That was good for the girls who were not able to earn the Presidential Fitness Award, she said.
    I can only hope in the back of her mind Beth recognizes that in another ten years chances are she'll be an achiever and it'll be on the backs of the other girls in her class. "Hey here's a bright idea! Let's create a program where everybody passes. That way EVERYONE can feel great about fitness, because we all know that everybody is fit and getting fitter!"
    Pull-ups were Megan Adkins' Achilles heel. Now 30 and president of the Nebraska Association for Health, Physical Education, Recreation and Dance, she is a fan of FitnessGram.

    “When adults go to the gym, it's not ‘Well, we're going to compete against the person next to us on the other treadmill to see who can run faster.' We're trying to improve our own self and our own bodies,” she said.

    Adkins, now a physical education lecturer at the University of Nebraska at Kearney, never earned the Presidential Fitness Award because of what she calls those “stinkin'” pull-ups.

    “I tried and tried and tried,” she said, “and never could get that pull-up and never could get that Presidential Award.”
    Another loser trying to make more losers because she doesn't want to feel inadequate over something that happened decades ago.

    Here's the thing, too. It's a goddamn standardized test. How can we gather ANY information on the state of health of the vast majority of the kids in this country if they're not conducting and tracking standardized tests? I have a woman who works near me, whose son is chubby and out of shape. She's pleased that her kid in our major metro area public school isn't doing this. By everything I've heard both personally and anecdotally, the kid is a musical genius. But he's chubby. Why is it so @#$% important to make him feel extra-special about being chubby? Happily, my evil suburb still has this going on. You know what, so what if all kids aren't getting the super-happy badge and certificate? Not all kids are going to be in the top 15th percentile, and those who aren't should be given an actual goal to work toward.

    http://www.omaha.com/article/20100119/NEWS01/701199954

    Spoiler for article in full:

    Published Tuesday January 19, 2010

    Fitness model muscled aside

    By Joe Dejka
    WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITER

    KENT SIEVERS/THE WORLD-HERALD

    Like an exhausted child straining on a pull-up bar, the Presidential Physical Fitness Test is losing its grip on public schools.

    School officials say the 44-year-old test, once the gold standard for measuring fitness, embarrasses and discourages out-of-shape children while doing little to motivate students to become healthy.

    Schools increasingly are replacing it with the FitnessGram, tests that measure individual progress toward health goals rather than how a child ranks against his peers nationally. It also gives kids a range of fitness targets to hit.

    To qualify for the Presidential Fitness Award, for example, a 10-year-old boy needs to do 22 push-ups. To hit his “healthy fitness zone” under the FitnessGram program, he has to do between 7 and 20 push-ups.

    “It strikes a different chord about bringing up the average child instead of having kids compete against other kids to be the top,” said Iowa State University assistant professor Gregory Welk, FitnessGram's scientific director.

    Tens of thousands of schools nationwide have adopted the program, developed in 1982 by the Cooper Institute of Dallas, a nonprofit health research center. The shift is part of a national trend to refocus physical education classes from teaching sports skills to promoting healthy lifestyles, especially as childhood obesity rates increase.

    But not everyone is eager to dump the Presidential Fitness Test, which challenges students to place in the top 15 percent of the nation for their age and gender in pull-ups, sit-ups and other exercises.

    Students at Chase County Elementary School in Imperial, Neb., earn more Presidential Fitness Test awards each year than any other Nebraska school of comparable size. They have brought home the Presidential State Champion Award 30 of the past 35 years.

    Physical education teacher Jodie Schuller is trying to keep the tradition alive.

    Schuller, 39, is a fan of in-your-face personal trainer Jillian Michaels, who goads obese contestants to get into shape on NBC's “The Biggest Loser.” In this age of “biggie”-size meals and video games that don't involve much activity, she said, putting a little pressure on kids can be a good thing.

    Kids sometimes don't know what they're capable of until they're challenged, Schuller said.

    “To me, life is sometimes made too easy on kids nowadays,” she said. “We hand them things. I guess I'm old-fashioned.”

    If you're between 20 and 50 years old, you probably took the Presidential Fitness Test. President Lyndon Johnson established the national test in 1966 amid rising concerns that U.S. kids, softened by industrialization and affluence, were not as fit as European children. Thousands of schools employed the test, and millions of children tried to push, pull and run their way to earn a handsome blue patch and a certificate bearing the president's signature.

    Gretna Public Schools physical education teachers abandoned the program five or 10 years ago when they “found over and over again that it wasn't motivating kids,” said Superintendent Kevin Riley.

    “Conceptually, it's very good,” Riley said. “However, if you've got a heavyset kid who can't do a pull-up, it doesn't do anything to motivate them to get better.”

    Julane Hill, coordinated school health director for the Nebraska Department of Education, foresees a day when the Presidential Fitness Test will be gone.

    Eighteen Nebraska school districts, including the five largest, have switched to FitnessGram. The Lincoln and Millard school districts adopted it a decade ago, the Omaha Public Schools in 2008.

    In Iowa, FitnessGram and the Presidential Fitness Test are believed to be about equally used, said Elaine Watkins-Miller, spokeswoman for the Iowa Department of Education.

    With the Presidential Fitness Test, districts typically test upper elementary and middle school students each fall and spring in five events: curl-ups or partial curl-ups (sit-ups), shuttle run, endurance run/walk, pull-ups or right angle push-ups, and V-sit or sit and reach.

    Boys and girls who score at or above the 85th percentile of U.S. youths on all five events, based on standards established in a 1985 study of youth fitness, are eligible for the award.

    With FitnessGram, students also test twice a year, or sometimes more often. They try to keep their scores within the health fitness zones for three areas: aerobic capacity; body composition; and muscular strength, endurance and flexibility. The zones are established by research to reflect levels of fitness necessary for good health, the company says.

    It's the bottom number that's most important, because it's the threshold for fitness. Scoring below that puts a child in the “needs improvement” zone.

    Children periodically get a colorful FitnessGram report highlighting their successes, reminding them to lead a healthy lifestyle and offering tips for improvement. A child who scores low in pull-ups might receive a message to increase arm exercises or climbing.

    The switch to FitnessGram may be driven by the national alarm over childhood obesity, as school districts search for physical education programs that work, said Annette Eyman, spokeswoman for the Papillion-La Vista Schools, which switched this year.

    Between 1976 and 2006, childhood obesity in children ages 6 to 11 increased from 6.5 percent to 17 percent, raising the risk of diabetes, asthma and sleep apnea, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    “The ultimate goal of the FitnessGram is to give kids a lifelong measurement tool that can help encourage and promote that physical activity,” Eyman said. “That's the goal, versus a one-time recognition.”

    In Chase County, however, recognition is a part of the winning formula. Patches, certificates and a tradition of winning help motivate kids, Schuller said. “It's mainly the tradition,” she said. “The kids want to be like big brother or big sister.”

    Robert and Robyn Forsyth of Papillion have raised four Presidential Fitness Award-winning kids. Their children even practiced the exercises at home.

    Beth, 12, earned the award twice and prefers the Presidential Fitness Award to the FitnessGram because it's more challenging. “It's important to challenge kids because then they'll work harder in other things,” she said.

    Beth sees some good in the FitnessGram. When the girls in her sixth-grade class ran a FitnessGram aerobic test, nearly all of them reached their healthy fitness zones. That was good for the girls who were not able to earn the Presidential Fitness Award, she said.

    The Presidential Fitness Test is still used in the David City Schools, where Tom Jahde taught PE for 20 years. He encouraged kids to try to at least pass one or two of the exercise tests. During the mile run, he grouped kids by ability to minimize embarrassment. He looked for improvement.

    His district passes out the patches during a parents awards night.

    “We try to promote it and make a big deal about it so kids really feel proud of what they accomplished,” he said.

    The only thing he didn't like about it was that kids had to pass all the tests to get the award.

    Pull-ups were Megan Adkins' Achilles heel. Now 30 and president of the Nebraska Association for Health, Physical Education, Recreation and Dance, she is a fan of FitnessGram.

    “When adults go to the gym, it's not ‘Well, we're going to compete against the person next to us on the other treadmill to see who can run faster.' We're trying to improve our own self and our own bodies,” she said.

    Adkins, now a physical education lecturer at the University of Nebraska at Kearney, never earned the Presidential Fitness Award because of what she calls those “stinkin'” pull-ups.

    “I tried and tried and tried,” she said, “and never could get that pull-up and never could get that Presidential Award.”
    Last edited by Grindel; January 19th, 2010 at 11:10 AM. Reason: Added text of article. Duh, me.

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    I recall in junior high and high school, our grade was partially based on how well you did on the fitness examinations in comparison to everyone else. That was so unfathomably stupid.
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    I wonder if this makes conservatives happy to get a Presidential agenda out of the class room. just kidding

    Seriously though if an overweight kid feels discouraged that is the teachers fault, not the fitness award. Kids should be encouraged to run as much of the mile, do as many push ups and sit ups as they can. They should be praised when they make progress towards a goal so they don't see failure from making the goal as bad, but rather getting closer and closer as good. Taking the goal away altogether seems like a bad ideal.

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    yes it's partially dumb
    bet it's also about not haivng hard stats piling up showing how unfit kids are getting...

    I hated that in high school I was only #2 in year 'cause of me not being able to run, sod all to do with fitness or BRAINS, grrr (A for effort, D for achievement at sports *grumbles* )

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    Maybe parents should help raise kids that are more fit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apallohadas View Post
    Maybe parents should help raise kids that are more fit?

    NAAAAAHHH
    Crazy talk!

    The Government gives people ample information about how to not become obese, and there’s tons of information out there, people just chose to ignore it. I feel bad for obese kids, but 9 times out of 10 they resemble their parents. I can’t tel yu how many times I’ve held people’s hand and given them a step by step guide to losing weight, but they invariably chose to ignore it. Its hard work to be aware of what you put in your body, not really, but they don’t really WANT to be fit and w/o that desire they’re going to be out of shape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torcer Arcana View Post
    Its hard work to be aware of what you put in your body, not really, but they don’t really WANT to be fit and w/o that desire they’re going to be out of shape.
    I just want my pill that instantly puts me in optimal shape.

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    I think that the average person is remarkably lazy and it's easy to maintain lazy rather than 'work hard' on staying in shape or losing weight.
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    Hey, it's PPatty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PPatty View Post
    I just want my pill that instantly puts me in optimal shape.
    You ok man?
    “Our opponent is an alien starship packed with atomic bomc,” I said. “We have a protractor. Okay, I'll go home and see if I can scrounge up a ruler and a piece of string.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torcer Arcana View Post
    You ok man?
    Other than the usual lack of cash, I think so. :-) Been increeeeeeedibly busy, though -- for the last six months, it's pretty much been work, eat, sleep, work, eat, sleep, work, sleep, seven days a week, no exaggeration.

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    Standardized tests suck and so do most gym teachers. So I sympathize with the fatties, in this instance.

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    Good deal.
    “Our opponent is an alien starship packed with atomic bomc,” I said. “We have a protractor. Okay, I'll go home and see if I can scrounge up a ruler and a piece of string.”

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    and here i expected a post about some agency trying to make metal tonka trucks illegal.
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    I used to be able to do 20 overhand, then reverse and do 20 underhand. Then I was unable to put my arms all the way down for at least a half an hour. Oh, and I could climb the rope faster than anyone else in the Eighth Grade, without using my legs at all.

    And yet today I am out of shape and far from wealthy. I guess that how many pull-ups a kid can do is not that great an indicator of future "fitness."

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    Obviously you missed your calling as a trapeze artist.

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    Ubnfortunately there was a tragic incident, and my family, the Flying Graysons-- I'm sorry, I just can't talk about this right now, it hurts too much!

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    I remember those tests. Although they didn't make the girls do pull-ups/chin-ups. They just timed how long they could hold the pull-up position (chin above but not resting on the bar). I just hated that my arms would start quivering as I reached the end of my endurance for that. I was never able to do a pull-up in those days.

    Now I can actually do a handful of pull-ups and slightly more chin-ups.

    As for taking away the Presidential Fitness Award - it's lame. Challenging goals are good.

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    Wow there really is a presidential fitness test? I always thought it was something made up for that king of the hill episode.

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    I don't remember ever giving a crap about the presidential fitness tests. They were like 0.1% of my physical activity for the year.

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